Revision history for VstDxParis


Revision [1861]

Last edited on 2010-03-22 11:48:50 by admin
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Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into a new folder, separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders; PARIS is then pointed towards that new folder as its plugins directory. At this point users no longer see any other plugins besides the chainer showing up in their native plugins directory. The chainer is then opened and pointed at the user's normal VST plugins folder.
To use a particular plugin, the user first calls up an instance of the chainer and then accesses the plugin through the chainer's interface. This way, PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which seems to act as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer (incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit).
Since several plugins are referred to in the forums as "chainers" and more than one include the word "Chainer" in their title, it can be confusing to find, install and configure them, so here's a graph and links (coming soon - these are "placeholders").
[[NativeSubmixSenderellaTut Senderella]], currently being developed by Kris Ellis to extend its usefulness in PARIS.
Deletions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into a new folder, separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders; PARIS is then pointed towards that new folder as its plugins directory. At this point users no longer see any other plugins besides the chainer showing up in their native plugins directory. The chainer is then opened and pointed at the user's normal VST plugins folder. To use a particular plugin the user first calls up an instance of the chainer and then accesses the plugin through the chainer's interface. Like this PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer, (incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit). Since several plugins are referred to in the forums as "chainers" and more than one include the word "Chainer" in their title, it can be confusing to find, install and configure them, so here's a graph and links (coming soon).
Senderella


Revision [1860]

Edited on 2010-03-22 11:42:46 by admin
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Classes of plugins called [[VstDxWrappersChainers "chainers" and "wrappers"]] began appearing around the time of PARIS' discontinuation. They offered increased flexibility by serving as a "go-between" between PARIS' fixed native FX architecture and the evolving world of VST and DX plugins.
Deletions:
Classes of plugins called [[VstDxWrapperChainer "chainers" and "wrappers"]] began appearing around the time of PARIS' discontinuation. They offered increased flexibility by serving as a "go-between" between PARIS' fixed native FX architecture and the evolving world of VST and DX plugins.


Revision [1859]

Edited on 2010-03-22 11:42:28 by admin
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Classes of plugins called [[VstDxWrapperChainer "chainers" and "wrappers"]] began appearing around the time of PARIS' discontinuation. They offered increased flexibility by serving as a "go-between" between PARIS' fixed native FX architecture and the evolving world of VST and DX plugins.
Deletions:
Classes of plugins called "chainers" and "wrappers" began appearing around the time of PARIS' discontinuation. They offered increased flexibility by serving as a "go-between" between PARIS' fixed native FX architecture and the evolving world of VST and DX plugins.


Revision [1492]

Edited on 2010-01-01 19:09:37 by admin
Additions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into a new folder, separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders; PARIS is then pointed towards that new folder as its plugins directory. At this point users no longer see any other plugins besides the chainer showing up in their native plugins directory. The chainer is then opened and pointed at the user's normal VST plugins folder. To use a particular plugin the user first calls up an instance of the chainer and then accesses the plugin through the chainer's interface. Like this PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer, (incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit). Since several plugins are referred to in the forums as "chainers" and more than one include the word "Chainer" in their title, it can be confusing to find, install and configure them, so here's a graph and links (coming soon).
Deletions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into folder separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders and PARIS is pointed towards that folder as its plugins directory. At this point you will no longer see any other plugins show up in your plugins directory. The chainer is then pointed at your normal VST plugins folder. To use a particular plugin you first call up an instance of the chainer first and then access the plugin through the chainer's interface. Like this, PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer,, incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit. Since several include the word "Chainer" in their title, it can be confusing to find, install and configure them, so here's a graph and links (coming soon).


Revision [1491]

Edited on 2010-01-01 19:06:00 by admin
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4) PARIS' channel strips are mono; stereo plugins can be used but must be handled with care. They must be inserted across a pair of adjacent channels (open a native plugin on the "left" or "odd numbered" channel and click the "stereo" checkbox in the window's lower LH corner). Users must be careful to edit the corresponding audio in exact pairs since a "left" and "right" channel that contain audio of different lengths can cause havoc such as "[[ErrorUnequalStereo error in playback 1879048195/70000003]]".
5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) [[NativeLatencyDatabase nudge audio on the playing field]] to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework for relative latency compensation such as [[http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html Vertex DSP's FaderWorks]].
Deletions:
4) PARIS' channel strips are mono; stereo plugins can be used but must be handled with care. They must be inserted across a pair of adjacent tracks, and users must be careful to edit the corresponding audio in exact pairs since a "left" and "right" channel that contain audio of different lengths can cause havoc such as "[[ErrorUnequalStereo error in playback 1879048195/70000003]]".
5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) [[NativeLatencyDatabase nudge audio on the playing field earlier]] to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework for latency compensation such as [[http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html Vertex DSP's FaderWorks]].


Revision [1490]

Edited on 2010-01-01 19:04:01 by admin
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3) Plugins may only be used on channel strips; they may not be used on an aux or across the submix or master busses.
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3) Plugins may only be used on channel strips; they may not be used on an aux.


Revision [1489]

Edited on 2010-01-01 19:03:25 by admin
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6) Some plugins present particular problems for PARIS and are probably best avoided altogether.
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6) Some plugins present particular problems for PARIS and should be avoided.


Revision [1332]

Edited on 2009-12-29 02:10:16 by admin
Additions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into folder separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders and PARIS is pointed towards that folder as its plugins directory. At this point you will no longer see any other plugins show up in your plugins directory. The chainer is then pointed at your normal VST plugins folder. To use a particular plugin you first call up an instance of the chainer first and then access the plugin through the chainer's interface. Like this, PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer,, incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit. Since several include the word "Chainer" in their title, it can be confusing to find, install and configure them, so here's a graph and links (coming soon).
//more coming...//
Deletions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into folder separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders and PARIS is pointed towards that folder as its plugins directory. At this point you will no longer see any other plugins show up in your plugins directory. The chainer is then pointed at your normal VST plugins folder. To use a particular plugin you first call up an instance of the chainer first and then access the plugin through the chainer's interface. Like this, PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer,, incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit.
Since they all include the word "Chainer" in their title it can be confusing to find, install and configure them. Here's a graph and links.
more coming...


Revision [1331]

Edited on 2009-12-29 02:04:40 by admin
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5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) [[NativeLatencyDatabase nudge audio on the playing field earlier]] to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework for latency compensation such as [[http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html Vertex DSP's FaderWorks]].
Deletions:
5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) nudge audio on the playing field earlier to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework for latency compensation such as [[http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html Vertex DSP's FaderWorks]].


Revision [1330]

Edited on 2009-12-29 02:03:41 by admin
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5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) nudge audio on the playing field earlier to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework for latency compensation such as [[http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html Vertex DSP's FaderWorks]].
Deletions:
5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) nudge audio on the playing field earlier to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework


Revision [1329]

Edited on 2009-12-29 02:02:32 by admin
Additions:
4) PARIS' channel strips are mono; stereo plugins can be used but must be handled with care. They must be inserted across a pair of adjacent tracks, and users must be careful to edit the corresponding audio in exact pairs since a "left" and "right" channel that contain audio of different lengths can cause havoc such as "[[ErrorUnequalStereo error in playback 1879048195/70000003]]".
Deletions:
4) PARIS' channel strips are mono; stereo plugins can be used but must be handled with care. They must be inserted across a pair of adjacent tracks, and users must be careful to edit the corresponding audio in exact pairs since a "left" and "right" channel that contain audio of different lengths can cause havoc.


Revision [1328]

Edited on 2009-12-28 13:02:12 by admin
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[[http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html Vertex DSP's FaderWorks]]


Revision [1327]

Edited on 2009-12-28 13:00:04 by admin
Additions:
Senderella
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Senderella


Revision [1326]

Edited on 2009-12-28 12:59:27 by admin
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====Limitations====
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===Limitations===


Revision [1325]

Edited on 2009-12-28 12:58:55 by admin
Additions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into folder separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders and PARIS is pointed towards that folder as its plugins directory. At this point you will no longer see any other plugins show up in your plugins directory. The chainer is then pointed at your normal VST plugins folder. To use a particular plugin you first call up an instance of the chainer first and then access the plugin through the chainer's interface. Like this, PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" or "interpreter" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same instance of a chainer,, incidentally bypassing the "4-native-plugins-per-channel/64-per-submix" limit.
Acon Digital Media Chainer
Xlutop Chainer
FFX-4 Rack
FXpansion
====Specialized Native Plugins of particular use in PARIS====
Senderella
Deletions:
Chainers have been useful in breaking some of PARIS' original VST/DX limitations. They all work the same way: chainers are installed into folder separate from your normal VST or DX plugins folders, PARIS is pointed towards that folder as its plugins directory, and then the plugin is pointed at your normal VST plugins folder. This way, PARIS never sees a particular plugin directly, but only through the intermediary layer of the chainer which serves as a sort of "buffer" for difficult or problematic plugins. Multiple VST or DX plugins can also be run within the same chainer, bypassing the "64-plugin-per-submix" limit.
Acon Digital Media:
Xlutop:
FXpansion wrapper


Revision [1324]

Edited on 2009-12-28 12:48:31 by admin
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1) VST implementation appears to be the more robust of the two, and many users choose to disable DX altogether. However, others report good luck with DX plugins, particularly using a wrapper or chainer (see below).
2) 64 plugin slots total are available per submix (four on each of the sixteen channels)
3) Plugins may only be used on channel strips; they may not be used on an aux.
4) PARIS' channel strips are mono; stereo plugins can be used but must be handled with care. They must be inserted across a pair of adjacent tracks, and users must be careful to edit the corresponding audio in exact pairs since a "left" and "right" channel that contain audio of different lengths can cause havoc.
5) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS so users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) nudge audio on the playing field earlier to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework
6) Some plugins present particular problems for PARIS and should be avoided.
Classes of plugins called "chainers" and "wrappers" began appearing around the time of PARIS' discontinuation. They offered increased flexibility by serving as a "go-between" between PARIS' fixed native FX architecture and the evolving world of VST and DX plugins.
==Chainers==
==Wrappers==
Wrappers also provide a "buffer" between PARIS' VST/DX framework and the "native" world of VST and DX plugins, but (as their name implies) "wrappers" provide that buffer by "wrapping" particular plugins.
FXpansion wrapper
Deletions:
1) VST implementation appears to be the more robust of the two, and many users choose to disable DX altogether. However, others report good luck with DX as well, particularly using a wrapper or chainer (see below).
2) 64 plugin slots are available per submix (four on each of the sixteen channels)
3) Plugins may only be used on channel strips; they may not be used on an Aux.
4) Because PARIS' channel strips are strictly mono, stereo plugins must be handled with care; they must be inserted across a pair of adjacent tracks, and users must be very careful to edit the corresponding audio in exact pairs (a "left" and "right" channel that contain audio of different lengths can cause havoc).
5) Some plugins present particular problems for PARIS and should be avoided
6) There is no plugin latency compensation in PARIS; users must either a) [[NativeLatencyDatabase select plugins that don't introduce latency]], b) nudge audio on the playing field earlier to compensate for the delaying effect of latency or c) use a self-contained framework
New classes of plugins called "chainers" and "wrappers" began appearing around the time of PARIS' discontinuation. They offered increased flexibility by serving as go-betweens between PARIS' fixed native FX architecture and the evolving world of VST and DX plugins.
===Chainers===
===Wrappers===
FXpansion


Revision [1323]

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