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This is an old revision of CurrentAudetStatus made by admin on 2018-12-21 14:18:57.
This graph should help you learn what PARIS can do today in 2018 with the new drivers:
| Driver | Win3.1 | Win2K | WinNT | WinXP | Win7/32 | Win7/64 | Win8/32 | Win8/64 | Win9/32 | Win9/64 | Win10/32 | Win10/64 | Features | Hardware can be used with other DAWs (via ASIO) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Original factory drivers | x | x | x | Original release | no | |||||||||
| Original ASIO drivers | x | x | x | Original release | MEC i/o only, high latency, unstable | |||||||||
| Chris Thoman's Multicore drivers | x | x | x | x | enabled multicore computers and usage under XP for first time | no | ||||||||
| Chris Thoman's ASIO drivers | x | x | x | Original | better - MEC i/o only, high latency | |||||||||
| Mike Audet 32-bit drivers | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | stability increases, control panel | no | ||||
| Mike Audet 64-bit drivers | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | no | |
| Mike Audet ASIO drivers | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | Enables stable use with other DAWS;C16 becomes OSC controller for DAW control - OSC is a kind of "MIDI on steroids" for controllers | Full MEC io, (down to) 32 samples latency |
What's the current forum recommendation? Unless you are utterly strapped for cash and $100 in drivers is a dealbreaker if you want to use the PARIS app with the PARIS hardware on up-to-date machines: for the price of $50, Mike's 32- or 64-bit drivers (depending on your OS) deliver fifteen-year-newer technology and approaches than previous efforts and will yield the most bulletproof PARIS rig yet fielded. This is a no-brainer.
If you want to keep your PARIS hardware but leave the aging PARIS app behind and run another DAW on it instead, without losing any patching and routing flexibility from your expansion cards:
Mike's $50 ASIO drivers will allow use of all your existing i/o and turn your C16s into MIDI mixers (they actually use OSC). Grand total $100, and the best money you can spend on PARIS!
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What can you do for free, assuming you're into putting in some elbow grease and smarts?
Obviously our hands-down recommendation today a new(er) computer, a more modern OS and Mike's carefully created drivers; even a seven- or eight- year old computer with Win7 installed, obtained for $50 or $100 Craigslist, will give PARIS vastly greater resources than were ever imagined by its developers, and Mike's drivers have killed some of the old bugs. PARIS will perform like a racehorse, while still giving you modern OS support unimaginable in 1999, making other aspects of musical life so much easier.
But sometimes that's just not how folks want to roll. So if you're a committed "do it myself for free" DIY'er and you don't mind getting your hands a bit dirty:
For starts, PARIS ran just fine back in the day; there's no reason it won't run just as happily as it did in 1999 if you can simply duplicate the hardware and OS in use back then. Machines of this vintage - even "state of the art" for their day - can be found for free or for pennies. Remember that electronics do age; although a silicon chip may not age as rapidly, capacitors on a PSU or motherboard can dry out and work less effectively or fail entirely, as well as the plastic on the motherboard (it's becoming obvious now that some plastic parts on the motherboard, like the frame holding the heat sink in place, or the tabs on a RAM slot, were sometimes not properly formulated for protracted use in a high-heat, high-vibration environment, and can eventually crumble into bits, bringing the computer to a dead halt).
1) PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999 - Running with the PARIS app: A vanilla install of PARIS will work on OS' up to Win NT/2K; assuming you can find an old single-core machine (which could probably be found for free or next-to-free) you can install one of these old OS and run PARIS stock just as happily as you did in 1999. This is a hard limit: you CANNOT use WinXP or newer with a vanilla install.
2) PARTY LIKE IT'S 2004: With the old PARIS XP DRIVERS you can use a slightly newer multi-core machine (if you get too new you may run into problems with supporting the older OS PARIS requires). This will require some degree of technical savvy (or at least "fearlessness") in following the detailed instructions to "bind" the old non-multi-threading PARIS application processes to a single thread to make it all work. But it did - and will - work. This will get you into the multi-core machine game (for over a decade most machines have been automatically multi-core). The hard limit is that you CANNOT use WinXP or newer - these drivers support a maximum of WinXP.
3) PARIS HARDWARE WITH ASIO:
Achieving this is more problematic. The early ASIO drivers did work - after a fashion. The original version is installed by the PARIS installer and it sucks to the point of uselessness. The community-generated version is better, but still suffers from issues like significant latency and lack of support for MEC expansion cards. Within these limitations, you might have some luck with those, assuming you have an old install of a DAW (say Cubase 3.0) available that will install on an OS that's old enough for PARIS to run on.
