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| Paris workarounds update [message #81866] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 09:04  |
Dimitrios
Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005
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Hi,
I know that many of us are lazy in gathering info regarding Paris so here
is a summary that jumps out of my mind right now.
1. If you wanat a stable Paris without crashes like when exiting or when
changing projects while Paris is open, or closing plugins while playing
suggest that you disable DX support by changing the 0 to 1 in Paris cfg to
the DX disable line already there.* scroll down for a solution for DX support
some other way.
Also put your entire folder (just move) to c root, i.e c:/Paris
Put your vst's (uninstall and reinstall if needed) to c:/vst.
Also in registry (backup your registry before you do it in case you will
accidentally mess up with it)put under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session
Manager/Memory Management put s dword entry (might be there already)
DisablePagingExecutive double click and put number 1 so it will look like
0x00000001(1)
Also same place put LargeSystemCache as 1 again.
PagedPoolSize 4294967295 (as decimal)or ffffffff as hexademical.
also IOPageLockLimit as 40000 (hexademical)
Restart your computer (remember to always backup your registry to a floppy
disk first in case you will do wrongly the above ).
2. Now if you wanna still use DX plugins install the free FFX4 that can see
from within itself all your DX plugins.
3. For VST plugins I recommend the chainer or the free effectschainer.
4. Your vst folder is c:/vst
Now make another folder named c:/VstParis and put inside only
FFX4 your vst chainer , either effectschainer (also a DX chainer too !) or
chainer , and Vertex if you bought it (You ought this to yourself and Paris,
awesome).
This way Paris will launch very very quick.
5. Chainers benefits and drawbacks.
A Chainer (thats its name) is great, not free but extremely stable.
Can do 99 effects with ten pages of vst (no DX here), b ut for DX you can
load from inside chainer FFX4...
It has a dry and wet volume so you can have a "New York" style of compressing
(heavy compression underneath wet sound).
Chainer loads SSL plugins but DOES NOT show gui when loaded from FFX4 inside
chainer, workaround is to use SSL as vst instances.
B. FFX4 , Free, stable, DX chainer only but recognised as vst and DX.
Cannot load MONO waves effects ! only stereo.
C. Effectschainer, Free, Can chain vst AND DX in one !, can see ONLY MONO
DX plugins although it can load mono vst plugins, a little unstable with
that mono thing because it like STEREO !
SSL plugins crash Paris when loaded as DX.
4. Waves plugins can show indivindually as VST plugins and not under the
waveshells by using a free utility shell2vst.exe which is free.
You have to copy this in your waves directory in program files and drag over
the waveshells one each time.
The outputted vst waves can the be dragged to your c:/vst directory.
5.Vertex Faderworks is a godsend plugin tailored to Paris needs !
It has a latency compensation system that can solve all your latent plugins.
It has 32 groups with volume panning mute and other so you can now group
acroos submixes ,solo a specifically group , mute another , raise the volume
of your acoustic guitar tracks only that are spread over submixes etc...
Extremely stable to run directly from withing Parisvst folder.
6. Default project suggestion.
Make a default project putting on your last native slot Faderworks on each
Paris audio channel.
Then on slot 1 put your chainer.
I use chainer with FFX4 inside chainer to cover all vst and DX.
For Mono Waves plugins and generally mono version of DX plugins I have contacted
the effectschainer programmer if he can make this free great vst/dx chainer
to be able to SEE the mono DX version plugins.
7. Suggestion.
Use vst when possible with Paris as this seems far more stable than DX.
For autotune you can use FFX4 to load it.
8. For UAD1 I suggest you use effectchainer (free) for steeo plugins.
For mono version (to save dsp) I suggest you get either Spinaudio DX wrapper
or Directixer wrapper.
You can wrap with them the mono versions only.
So you might now ask hey I am confused what to use where and when ?
I totally suggest you buy chainer as it has been tested by me for months
now and is extremely stable and fantastic, then use inside the free FFX4
for DX.
Disable DX from within Paris and use in your extra Parisvst directory ONLY
Chainer ,X4 and faderworks
Yes only Three plugins for Paris to see and NO DX !!
Now open on each Paris audio channel a chainer instance with faderworks inside
OR load faderworks on last native slot on all channels.
So consider Paris as a version4 software whuich has a new vst/dx wrapping
system and new group/solo/muting/ syatem and latency compensation !
You will see how stable Paris can be !
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Dimitrios
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| Re: Paris workarounds update [message #81875 is a reply to message #81866] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 09:48  |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Once Again Dimitrios thank you
I'll be applying your ideas and suggestions to my next project and I'm
looking forward to some added stability. God knows how close I've come to
toasting Paris in the last three months.
Don
"Dimitrios" <musurgioNOSPAM@otenet.>@.gr> wrote in message
news:46014982$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I know that many of us are lazy in gathering info regarding Paris so here
> is a summary that jumps out of my mind right now.
>
> 1. If you wanat a stable Paris without crashes like when exiting or when
> changing projects while Paris is open, or closing plugins while playing
> suggest that you disable DX support by changing the 0 to 1 in Paris cfg to
> the DX disable line already there.* scroll down for a solution for DX
> support
> some other way.
> Also put your entire folder (just move) to c root, i.e c:/Paris
> Put your vst's (uninstall and reinstall if needed) to c:/vst.
> Also in registry (backup your registry before you do it in case you will
> accidentally mess up with it)put under
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session
> Manager/Memory Management put s dword entry (might be there already)
> DisablePagingExecutive double click and put number 1 so it will look like
> 0x00000001(1)
> Also same place put LargeSystemCache as 1 again.
> PagedPoolSize 4294967295 (as decimal)or ffffffff as hexademical.
> also IOPageLockLimit as 40000 (hexademical)
> Restart your computer (remember to always backup your registry to a floppy
> disk first in case you will do wrongly the above ).
>
> 2. Now if you wanna still use DX plugins install the free FFX4 that can
> see
> from within itself all your DX plugins.
>
> 3. For VST plugins I recommend the chainer or the free effectschainer.
>
> 4. Your vst folder is c:/vst
> Now make another folder named c:/VstParis and put inside only
> FFX4 your vst chainer , either effectschainer (also a DX chainer too !) or
> chainer , and Vertex if you bought it (You ought this to yourself and
> Paris,
> awesome).
> This way Paris will launch very very quick.
>
> 5. Chainers benefits and drawbacks.
>
> A Chainer (thats its name) is great, not free but extremely stable.
> Can do 99 effects with ten pages of vst (no DX here), b ut for DX you can
> load from inside chainer FFX4...
> It has a dry and wet volume so you can have a "New York" style of
> compressing
> (heavy compression underneath wet sound).
> Chainer loads SSL plugins but DOES NOT show gui when loaded from FFX4
> inside
> chainer, workaround is to use SSL as vst instances.
>
> B. FFX4 , Free, stable, DX chainer only but recognised as vst and DX.
> Cannot load MONO waves effects ! only stereo.
>
> C. Effectschainer, Free, Can chain vst AND DX in one !, can see ONLY MONO
> DX plugins although it can load mono vst plugins, a little unstable with
> that mono thing because it like STEREO !
> SSL plugins crash Paris when loaded as DX.
>
> 4. Waves plugins can show indivindually as VST plugins and not under the
> waveshells by using a free utility shell2vst.exe which is free.
> You have to copy this in your waves directory in program files and drag
> over
> the waveshells one each time.
> The outputted vst waves can the be dragged to your c:/vst directory.
>
> 5.Vertex Faderworks is a godsend plugin tailored to Paris needs !
> It has a latency compensation system that can solve all your latent
> plugins.
> It has 32 groups with volume panning mute and other so you can now group
> acroos submixes ,solo a specifically group , mute another , raise the
> volume
> of your acoustic guitar tracks only that are spread over submixes etc...
> Extremely stable to run directly from withing Parisvst folder.
>
> 6. Default project suggestion.
> Make a default project putting on your last native slot Faderworks on each
> Paris audio channel.
> Then on slot 1 put your chainer.
> I use chainer with FFX4 inside chainer to cover all vst and DX.
> For Mono Waves plugins and generally mono version of DX plugins I have
> contacted
> the effectschainer programmer if he can make this free great vst/dx
> chainer
> to be able to SEE the mono DX version plugins.
>
> 7. Suggestion.
> Use vst when possible with Paris as this seems far more stable than DX.
> For autotune you can use FFX4 to load it.
>
> 8. For UAD1 I suggest you use effectchainer (free) for steeo plugins.
> For mono version (to save dsp) I suggest you get either Spinaudio DX
> wrapper
> or Directixer wrapper.
> You can wrap with them the mono versions only.
>
> So you might now ask hey I am confused what to use where and when ?
>
> I totally suggest you buy chainer as it has been tested by me for months
> now and is extremely stable and fantastic, then use inside the free FFX4
> for DX.
> Disable DX from within Paris and use in your extra Parisvst directory ONLY
> Chainer ,X4 and faderworks
> Yes only Three plugins for Paris to see and NO DX !!
> Now open on each Paris audio channel a chainer instance with faderworks
> inside
> OR load faderworks on last native slot on all channels.
> So consider Paris as a version4 software whuich has a new vst/dx wrapping
> system and new group/solo/muting/ syatem and latency compensation !
> You will see how stable Paris can be !
> Hope this helps.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>
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| Re: Paris workarounds update [message #81903 is a reply to message #81866] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 14:52 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Thanks Dimitrios.. Good advice..
"Dimitrios" <musurgioNOSPAM@otenet.>@.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I know that many of us are lazy in gathering info regarding Paris so here
>is a summary that jumps out of my mind right now.
>
>1. If you wanat a stable Paris without crashes like when exiting or when
>changing projects while Paris is open, or closing plugins while playing
>suggest that you disable DX support by changing the 0 to 1 in Paris cfg
to
>the DX disable line already there.* scroll down for a solution for DX support
>some other way.
>Also put your entire folder (just move) to c root, i.e c:/Paris
>Put your vst's (uninstall and reinstall if needed) to c:/vst.
>Also in registry (backup your registry before you do it in case you will
>accidentally mess up with it)put under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session
>Manager/Memory Management put s dword entry (might be there already)
>DisablePagingExecutive double click and put number 1 so it will look like
>0x00000001(1)
>Also same place put LargeSystemCache as 1 again.
>PagedPoolSize 4294967295 (as decimal)or ffffffff as hexademical.
>also IOPageLockLimit as 40000 (hexademical)
>Restart your computer (remember to always backup your registry to a floppy
>disk first in case you will do wrongly the above ).
>
>2. Now if you wanna still use DX plugins install the free FFX4 that can
see
>from within itself all your DX plugins.
>
>3. For VST plugins I recommend the chainer or the free effectschainer.
>
>4. Your vst folder is c:/vst
>Now make another folder named c:/VstParis and put inside only
>FFX4 your vst chainer , either effectschainer (also a DX chainer too !)
or
>chainer , and Vertex if you bought it (You ought this to yourself and Paris,
>awesome).
>This way Paris will launch very very quick.
>
>5. Chainers benefits and drawbacks.
>
>A Chainer (thats its name) is great, not free but extremely stable.
>Can do 99 effects with ten pages of vst (no DX here), b ut for DX you can
>load from inside chainer FFX4...
>It has a dry and wet volume so you can have a "New York" style of compressing
>(heavy compression underneath wet sound).
>Chainer loads SSL plugins but DOES NOT show gui when loaded from FFX4 inside
>chainer, workaround is to use SSL as vst instances.
>
>B. FFX4 , Free, stable, DX chainer only but recognised as vst and DX.
>Cannot load MONO waves effects ! only stereo.
>
>C. Effectschainer, Free, Can chain vst AND DX in one !, can see ONLY MONO
>DX plugins although it can load mono vst plugins, a little unstable with
>that mono thing because it like STEREO !
>SSL plugins crash Paris when loaded as DX.
>
>4. Waves plugins can show indivindually as VST plugins and not under the
>waveshells by using a free utility shell2vst.exe which is free.
>You have to copy this in your waves directory in program files and drag
over
>the waveshells one each time.
>The outputted vst waves can the be dragged to your c:/vst directory.
>
>5.Vertex Faderworks is a godsend plugin tailored to Paris needs !
>It has a latency compensation system that can solve all your latent plugins.
>It has 32 groups with volume panning mute and other so you can now group
>acroos submixes ,solo a specifically group , mute another , raise the volume
>of your acoustic guitar tracks only that are spread over submixes etc...
>Extremely stable to run directly from withing Parisvst folder.
>
>6. Default project suggestion.
>Make a default project putting on your last native slot Faderworks on each
>Paris audio channel.
>Then on slot 1 put your chainer.
>I use chainer with FFX4 inside chainer to cover all vst and DX.
>For Mono Waves plugins and generally mono version of DX plugins I have contacted
>the effectschainer programmer if he can make this free great vst/dx chainer
>to be able to SEE the mono DX version plugins.
>
>7. Suggestion.
>Use vst when possible with Paris as this seems far more stable than DX.
>For autotune you can use FFX4 to load it.
>
>8. For UAD1 I suggest you use effectchainer (free) for steeo plugins.
>For mono version (to save dsp) I suggest you get either Spinaudio DX wrapper
>or Directixer wrapper.
>You can wrap with them the mono versions only.
>
>So you might now ask hey I am confused what to use where and when ?
>
>I totally suggest you buy chainer as it has been tested by me for months
>now and is extremely stable and fantastic, then use inside the free FFX4
>for DX.
>Disable DX from within Paris and use in your extra Parisvst directory ONLY
>Chainer ,X4 and faderworks
>Yes only Three plugins for Paris to see and NO DX !!
>Now open on each Paris audio channel a chainer instance with faderworks
inside
>OR load faderworks on last native slot on all channels.
>So consider Paris as a version4 software whuich has a new vst/dx wrapping
>system and new group/solo/muting/ syatem and latency compensation !
>You will see how stable Paris can be !
>Hope this helps.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>
>
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| Re: Paris workarounds update [message #81922 is a reply to message #81866] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 21:21 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Excellent summary Dimitrios. Thanks for putting this together.
MR
"Dimitrios" <musurgioNOSPAM@otenet.>@.gr> wrote in message
news:46014982$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I know that many of us are lazy in gathering info regarding Paris so here
> is a summary that jumps out of my mind right now.
>
> 1. If you wanat a stable Paris without crashes like when exiting or when
> changing projects while Paris is open, or closing plugins while playing
> suggest that you disable DX support by changing the 0 to 1 in Paris cfg to
> the DX disable line already there.* scroll down for a solution for DX
support
> some other way.
> Also put your entire folder (just move) to c root, i.e c:/Paris
> Put your vst's (uninstall and reinstall if needed) to c:/vst.
> Also in registry (backup your registry before you do it in case you will
> accidentally mess up with it)put under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session
> Manager/Memory Management put s dword entry (might be there already)
> DisablePagingExecutive double click and put number 1 so it will look like
> 0x00000001(1)
> Also same place put LargeSystemCache as 1 again.
> PagedPoolSize 4294967295 (as decimal)or ffffffff as hexademical.
> also IOPageLockLimit as 40000 (hexademical)
> Restart your computer (remember to always backup your registry to a floppy
> disk first in case you will do wrongly the above ).
>
> 2. Now if you wanna still use DX plugins install the free FFX4 that can
see
> from within itself all your DX plugins.
>
> 3. For VST plugins I recommend the chainer or the free effectschainer.
>
> 4. Your vst folder is c:/vst
> Now make another folder named c:/VstParis and put inside only
> FFX4 your vst chainer , either effectschainer (also a DX chainer too !) or
> chainer , and Vertex if you bought it (You ought this to yourself and
Paris,
> awesome).
> This way Paris will launch very very quick.
>
> 5. Chainers benefits and drawbacks.
>
> A Chainer (thats its name) is great, not free but extremely stable.
> Can do 99 effects with ten pages of vst (no DX here), b ut for DX you can
> load from inside chainer FFX4...
> It has a dry and wet volume so you can have a "New York" style of
compressing
> (heavy compression underneath wet sound).
> Chainer loads SSL plugins but DOES NOT show gui when loaded from FFX4
inside
> chainer, workaround is to use SSL as vst instances.
>
> B. FFX4 , Free, stable, DX chainer only but recognised as vst and DX.
> Cannot load MONO waves effects ! only stereo.
>
> C. Effectschainer, Free, Can chain vst AND DX in one !, can see ONLY MONO
> DX plugins although it can load mono vst plugins, a little unstable with
> that mono thing because it like STEREO !
> SSL plugins crash Paris when loaded as DX.
>
> 4. Waves plugins can show indivindually as VST plugins and not under the
> waveshells by using a free utility shell2vst.exe which is free.
> You have to copy this in your waves directory in program files and drag
over
> the waveshells one each time.
> The outputted vst waves can the be dragged to your c:/vst directory.
>
> 5.Vertex Faderworks is a godsend plugin tailored to Paris needs !
> It has a latency compensation system that can solve all your latent
plugins.
> It has 32 groups with volume panning mute and other so you can now group
> acroos submixes ,solo a specifically group , mute another , raise the
volume
> of your acoustic guitar tracks only that are spread over submixes etc...
> Extremely stable to run directly from withing Parisvst folder.
>
> 6. Default project suggestion.
> Make a default project putting on your last native slot Faderworks on each
> Paris audio channel.
> Then on slot 1 put your chainer.
> I use chainer with FFX4 inside chainer to cover all vst and DX.
> For Mono Waves plugins and generally mono version of DX plugins I have
contacted
> the effectschainer programmer if he can make this free great vst/dx
chainer
> to be able to SEE the mono DX version plugins.
>
> 7. Suggestion.
> Use vst when possible with Paris as this seems far more stable than DX.
> For autotune you can use FFX4 to load it.
>
> 8. For UAD1 I suggest you use effectchainer (free) for steeo plugins.
> For mono version (to save dsp) I suggest you get either Spinaudio DX
wrapper
> or Directixer wrapper.
> You can wrap with them the mono versions only.
>
> So you might now ask hey I am confused what to use where and when ?
>
> I totally suggest you buy chainer as it has been tested by me for months
> now and is extremely stable and fantastic, then use inside the free FFX4
> for DX.
> Disable DX from within Paris and use in your extra Parisvst directory ONLY
> Chainer ,X4 and faderworks
> Yes only Three plugins for Paris to see and NO DX !!
> Now open on each Paris audio channel a chainer instance with faderworks
inside
> OR load faderworks on last native slot on all channels.
> So consider Paris as a version4 software whuich has a new vst/dx wrapping
> system and new group/solo/muting/ syatem and latency compensation !
> You will see how stable Paris can be !
> Hope this helps.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>
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| Re: Paris workarounds update [message #81933 is a reply to message #81866] |
Wed, 21 March 2007 21:42 |
Sarah
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
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Senior Member |
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D,
If I do all this, will my computer have a Greek accent?
S.
"Dimitrios" <musurgioNOSPAM@otenet.>@.gr> wrote in message
news:46014982$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I know that many of us are lazy in gathering info regarding Paris so here
> is a summary that jumps out of my mind right now.
>
> 1. If you wanat a stable Paris without crashes like when exiting or when
> changing projects while Paris is open, or closing plugins while playing
> suggest that you disable DX support by changing the 0 to 1 in Paris cfg to
> the DX disable line already there.* scroll down for a solution for DX
> support
> some other way.
> Also put your entire folder (just move) to c root, i.e c:/Paris
> Put your vst's (uninstall and reinstall if needed) to c:/vst.
> Also in registry (backup your registry before you do it in case you will
> accidentally mess up with it)put under
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Session
> Manager/Memory Management put s dword entry (might be there already)
> DisablePagingExecutive double click and put number 1 so it will look like
> 0x00000001(1)
> Also same place put LargeSystemCache as 1 again.
> PagedPoolSize 4294967295 (as decimal)or ffffffff as hexademical.
> also IOPageLockLimit as 40000 (hexademical)
> Restart your computer (remember to always backup your registry to a floppy
> disk first in case you will do wrongly the above ).
>
> 2. Now if you wanna still use DX plugins install the free FFX4 that can
> see
> from within itself all your DX plugins.
>
> 3. For VST plugins I recommend the chainer or the free effectschainer.
>
> 4. Your vst folder is c:/vst
> Now make another folder named c:/VstParis and put inside only
> FFX4 your vst chainer , either effectschainer (also a DX chainer too !) or
> chainer , and Vertex if you bought it (You ought this to yourself and
> Paris,
> awesome).
> This way Paris will launch very very quick.
>
> 5. Chainers benefits and drawbacks.
>
> A Chainer (thats its name) is great, not free but extremely stable.
> Can do 99 effects with ten pages of vst (no DX here), b ut for DX you can
> load from inside chainer FFX4...
> It has a dry and wet volume so you can have a "New York" style of
> compressing
> (heavy compression underneath wet sound).
> Chainer loads SSL plugins but DOES NOT show gui when loaded from FFX4
> inside
> chainer, workaround is to use SSL as vst instances.
>
> B. FFX4 , Free, stable, DX chainer only but recognised as vst and DX.
> Cannot load MONO waves effects ! only stereo.
>
> C. Effectschainer, Free, Can chain vst AND DX in one !, can see ONLY MONO
> DX plugins although it can load mono vst plugins, a little unstable with
> that mono thing because it like STEREO !
> SSL plugins crash Paris when loaded as DX.
>
> 4. Waves plugins can show indivindually as VST plugins and not under the
> waveshells by using a free utility shell2vst.exe which is free.
> You have to copy this in your waves directory in program files and drag
> over
> the waveshells one each time.
> The outputted vst waves can the be dragged to your c:/vst directory.
>
> 5.Vertex Faderworks is a godsend plugin tailored to Paris needs !
> It has a latency compensation system that can solve all your latent
> plugins.
> It has 32 groups with volume panning mute and other so you can now group
> acroos submixes ,solo a specifically group , mute another , raise the
> volume
> of your acoustic guitar tracks only that are spread over submixes etc...
> Extremely stable to run directly from withing Parisvst folder.
>
> 6. Default project suggestion.
> Make a default project putting on your last native slot Faderworks on each
> Paris audio channel.
> Then on slot 1 put your chainer.
> I use chainer with FFX4 inside chainer to cover all vst and DX.
> For Mono Waves plugins and generally mono version of DX plugins I have
> contacted
> the effectschainer programmer if he can make this free great vst/dx
> chainer
> to be able to SEE the mono DX version plugins.
>
> 7. Suggestion.
> Use vst when possible with Paris as this seems far more stable than DX.
> For autotune you can use FFX4 to load it.
>
> 8. For UAD1 I suggest you use effectchainer (free) for steeo plugins.
> For mono version (to save dsp) I suggest you get either Spinaudio DX
> wrapper
> or Directixer wrapper.
> You can wrap with them the mono versions only.
>
> So you might now ask hey I am confused what to use where and when ?
>
> I totally suggest you buy chainer as it has been tested by me for months
> now and is extremely stable and fantastic, then use inside the free FFX4
> for DX.
> Disable DX from within Paris and use in your extra Parisvst directory ONLY
> Chainer ,X4 and faderworks
> Yes only Three plugins for Paris to see and NO DX !!
> Now open on each Paris audio channel a chainer instance with faderworks
> inside
> OR load faderworks on last native slot on all channels.
> So consider Paris as a version4 software whuich has a new vst/dx wrapping
> system and new group/solo/muting/ syatem and latency compensation !
> You will see how stable Paris can be !
> Hope this helps.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>
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