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| Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86585] |
Wed, 13 June 2007 23:13  |
Tom Bruhl
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I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others =
never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light up. =20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and E =
(B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh? =
This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I =
tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, all =
but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line =
with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can =
get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
a five card,=20
XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that won't =
play nice. =20
It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>had to run in series =
from the=20
Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>configuration. =
David gave me=20
that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>and hardware as =
I. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will play =
back projects=20
in parallel wc mode with all five cards active. =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Bad news is it =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>won't allow =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>any inputs except the =
first=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>16 on MEC =
A. All=20
the others never show up in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>meters =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>although their =
associated input lights=20
on the modules </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>light=20
up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>When wc =
is in series I=20
lose the EDS cards that </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>are in between A and E (B, C & D) so no audio </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>plays </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>off those cards =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>but all hardware =
inputs work and=20
print ! Huh? This is with or without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris=20
config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>and I tried a multitude of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>combinations =
of Mecs and=20
442s </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>connected to=20
different cards. Well, all but the 442 on Mec A </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>which =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>is unacceptable =
anyway. It seems=20
to like the 442 last in line with card E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at a loss =
for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking another =
Mec=20
instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the 442 is =
all I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can get three =
going=20
successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios was =
all over this=20
months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of 442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>TIA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
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| Re: Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86586 is a reply to message #86585] |
Wed, 13 June 2007 23:23  |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Tom,
I had issues with the "never appearing audio" on my system but it's been
pretty stable now. It's a four card 2X442 1X MEC system connected to a
Lucid GenX6. Connects for Paris cards are as follows:
A-442
B-442
C-None
D-Mec
The only thing consistent was no consistency. Per Dimitrios,
uninstalled and reinstalled Paris right off the root (c:\ParisPro).
Then terminated all interfaces. Finally, per DJ, tried all matching
length word clock cables. I already had the default project at 48K
(another per DJ).
ONce all this was in place, it has been much more stable again with all
inputs working and showing.
Hope this helps,
Jeff
> I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock generator
> that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables
> had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
> configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo
> and hardware as I.
>
> Symptoms:
> It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards
> active. Bad news is it
> won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others
> never show up in the
> meters although their associated input lights on the modules light up.
>
> When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and E
> (B, C & D) so no audio
> plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh?
> This is with or without
> UseHouseSync=1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I tried
> a multitude of
> combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, all
> but the 442 on Mec A
> which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line
> with card E.
>
> I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm
> thinking another Mec instead
> of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can
> get three going successfully.
>
> I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs
> instead of 442s.
> Anyone else?
>
> TIA,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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| Re: Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86590 is a reply to message #86585] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 05:50 |
Deej [4]
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I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442 in =
favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because Paris =
likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots, at least =
with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able to see a =
clock signal until after it initializes which is during bootup so it's =
not siyncing at the same time as the other devices. Also, with my =
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, =
not daisy chained.=20
Try this:
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for =
tracking/mixing).
2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC (including =
MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets it's power =
from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
3. Boot PC
4. Launch Windows
3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe from =
that folder
5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj be =
set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name =
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program =
files folder and save it again under the same name to your desktop.
6. Close Paris
7. Reboot computer
Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got that =
MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a 4 MEC =
system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably for me.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4670de3c$1@linux...
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others =
never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light up. =
=20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and E =
(B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh? =
This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I =
tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, all =
but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line =
with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I =
can get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem running =
three MECs and a=20
442. Losing the 442 in favor of another MEC solved the =
problem........prbably=20
because Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it =
boots, at=20
least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able=20
to see a clock signal until after it initializes which =
is during=20
bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other devices.=20
Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a =
separate clock=20
feed from the GenX6, not daisy chained. </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if =
that's what=20
you use for tracking/mixing).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Turn on any other devices that =
are=20
interfacing with the WC (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with =
a 442=20
since it gets it's power from the computer-which, as stated =
above, may be=20
the problem)</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot PC</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Launch Windows</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program Files and=20
launch Paris.exe from that folder</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Set project to 48KHz=20
(<STRONG><U>very</U></STRONG> important that the default project.ppj be =
set to=20
48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name "default =
project"=20
(no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program files folder and save =
it=20
again under the same name to your desktop.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Close Paris</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7. Reboot =
computer</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got that MEC here if you want to give it a try. =
The=20
reason I was using a 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never =
did work=20
reliably for me.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
a five card,=20
XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that won't =
play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>had to run in series =
from the=20
Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>configuration. =
David gave=20
me that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>and hardware as =
I. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will =
play back=20
projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. =20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Bad news =
is it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>won't allow =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>any inputs except the =
first=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>16 on MEC =
A. All=20
the others never show up in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>meters =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>although their =
associated input=20
lights on the modules </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>light up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>When wc is in series=20
I lose the EDS cards that </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>are in between A and E (B, C & D) so no audio =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>plays </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>off those cards =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>but all hardware =
inputs work=20
and print ! Huh? This is with or without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the=20
Paris config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and I tried a multitude of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>combinations of Mecs and=20
442s </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>connected to=20
different cards. Well, all but the 442 on Mec A </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>which =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>is unacceptable =
anyway. It=20
seems to like the 442 last in line with card E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at a =
loss for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking =
another Mec=20
instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the 442 =
is all I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can get three =
going=20
successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios was =
all over=20
this months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of =
442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>TIA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
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and=20
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| Re: Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86598 is a reply to message #86590] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 07:25 |
Tom Bruhl
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Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal =
length WC cables.
I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just to =
see if anything
helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 things =
in front of that=20
that I have to do.
Thanks tons,
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442 in =
favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because Paris =
likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots, at least =
with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able to see a =
clock signal until after it initializes which is during bootup so it's =
not siyncing at the same time as the other devices. Also, with my =
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, =
not daisy chained.=20
Try this:
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for =
tracking/mixing).
2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC =
(including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets =
it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
3. Boot PC
4. Launch Windows
3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe from =
that folder
5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj =
be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name =
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program =
files folder and save it again under the same name to your desktop.
6. Close Paris
7. Reboot computer
Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got =
that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a 4 =
MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably for me.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4670de3c$1@linux...
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same =
mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the others =
never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light =
up. =20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A and =
E (B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! Huh? =
This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and I =
tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, =
all but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in line =
with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I =
can get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks guys. I will give your =
suggestions a=20
try. I do have equal length WC cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will need that MEC Deej. Let me =
trouble=20
shoot a little more just to see if anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>helps my situation. Maybe even =
today if I can=20
finish the 1,000 things in front of that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I have to=20
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks tons,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46713b25@linux">news:46713b25@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem running =
three MECs and=20
a 442. Losing the 442 in favor of another MEC solved the=20
problem........prbably because Paris likes to see a clock signal on =
all=20
interfaces when it boots, at least with mine, this seemed to be the =
case. The=20
442 is not able to see a clock signal until after it =
initializes=20
which is during bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time =
as the=20
other devices. Also, with my system, each MEC was being =
sent a=20
separate clock feed from the GenX6, not daisy chained. =
</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if =
that's what=20
you use for tracking/mixing).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Turn on any other devices that =
are=20
interfacing with the WC (including MECs-obviously you can't do this =
with a 442=20
since it gets it's power from the computer-which, as stated =
above, may be=20
the problem)</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot PC</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Launch =
Windows</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program Files=20
and launch Paris.exe from that folder</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Set project to 48KHz=20
(<STRONG><U>very</U></STRONG> important that the default project.ppj =
be set to=20
48KHz), sync source external, save project under the =
name "default=20
project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program files =
folder and=20
save it again under the same name to your desktop.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Close Paris</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7. Reboot =
computer</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got that MEC here if you want to give it a =
try. The=20
reason I was using a 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never =
did work=20
reliably for me.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
a five=20
card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that =
won't play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>had to run in =
series from the=20
Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000>configuration. David=20
gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>and hardware as =
I. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will =
play back=20
projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. =20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Bad =
news is it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>won't =
allow=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>any =
inputs except the=20
first </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>16 on MEC=20
A. All the others never show up in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>meters =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>although their =
associated input=20
lights on the modules </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>light up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>When wc is in=20
series I lose the EDS cards that </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>are in between A and E (B, C & D) so no =
audio=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>plays </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>off those cards =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>but =
all hardware inputs work=20
and print ! Huh? This is with or without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the=20
Paris config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and I tried a multitude of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>combinations of Mecs=20
and 442s </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>connected to=20
different cards. Well, all but the 442 on Mec A </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>which =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>is unacceptable =
anyway. It=20
seems to like the 442 last in line with card E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at a =
loss for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking =
another Mec=20
instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the =
442 is all I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can get three =
going=20
successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios =
was all over=20
this months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of =
442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>TIA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
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Thu, 14 June 2007 07:48 |
EK Sound
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Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards.
You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run
seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme
of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can
re-arrange them in software.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal
> length WC cables.
> I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just to
> see if anything
> helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 things
> in front of that
> that I have to do.
>
> Thanks tons,
> Tom
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442
> in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because
> Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots,
> at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able
> to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is during
> bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other devices.
> Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed
> from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
>
> Try this:
>
> 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> tracking/mixing).
> 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC
> (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets
> it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
> 3. Boot PC
> 4. Launch Windows
> 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe
> from that folder
> 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj
> be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the
> name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the
> program files folder and save it again under the same name to your
> desktop.
> 6. Close Paris
> 7. Reboot computer
>
> Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got
> that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a
> 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably
> for me.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock
> generator
> that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC
> cables
> had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler
> configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same
> mobo
> and hardware as I.
>
> Symptoms:
> It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five
> cards active. Bad news is it
> won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the
> others never show up in the
> meters although their associated input lights on the modules
> light up.
>
> When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A
> and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print !
> Huh? This is with or without
> UseHouseSync=1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and
> I tried a multitude of
> combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.
> Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in
> line with card E.
>
> I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions?
> I'm thinking another Mec instead
> of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total
> if I can get three going successfully.
>
> I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested
> Mecs instead of 442s.
> Anyone else?
>
> TIA,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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Thu, 14 June 2007 07:54 |
Deej [4]
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No problem/no rush Tom. I just hope you get this sussed one way or =
another. I know from experience how frustrating this can be.
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46715169@linux...
Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal =
length WC cables.
I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just to =
see if anything
helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 things =
in front of that=20
that I have to do.
Thanks tons,
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:46713b25@linux...
I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the 442 =
in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because Paris =
likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it boots, at least =
with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not able to see a =
clock signal until after it initializes which is during bootup so it's =
not siyncing at the same time as the other devices. Also, with my =
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, =
not daisy chained.=20
Try this:
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for =
tracking/mixing).
2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC =
(including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it gets =
it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the problem)
3. Boot PC
4. Launch Windows
3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe =
from that folder
5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default project.ppj =
be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the name =
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program =
files folder and save it again under the same name to your desktop.
6. Close Paris
7. Reboot computer
Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still got =
that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was using a 4 =
MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work reliably for me.
Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:4670de3c$1@linux...
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator
that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables
had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a =
simpler
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the same =
mobo=20
and hardware as I. =20
Symptoms:
It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. Bad news is it=20
won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the =
others never show up in the=20
meters although their associated input lights on the modules light =
up. =20
When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in between A =
and E (B, C & D) so no audio=20
plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print ! =
Huh? This is with or without
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination and =
I tried a multitude of=20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards. Well, =
all but the 442 on Mec A=20
which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last in =
line with card E.
I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm =
thinking another Mec instead=20
of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if =
I can get three going successfully.
I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested Mecs =
instead of 442s.
Anyone else?
TIA,
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No problem/no rush Tom. I just hope you =
get this=20
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can=20
be.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46715169@linux">news:46715169@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks guys. I will give your =
suggestions a=20
try. I do have equal length WC cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will need that MEC Deej. Let =
me trouble=20
shoot a little more just to see if anything</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>helps my situation. Maybe even =
today if I=20
can finish the 1,000 things in front of that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I have to=20
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks tons,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:46713b25@linux">news:46713b25@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had the same problem running =
three MECs=20
and a 442. Losing the 442 in favor of another MEC solved the=20
problem........prbably because Paris likes to see a clock signal on =
all=20
interfaces when it boots, at least with mine, this seemed to be the =
case.=20
The 442 is not able to see a clock signal until after it=20
initializes which is during bootup so it's not siyncing at =
the=20
same time as the other devices. Also, with my system, each MEC =
was=20
being sent a separate clock feed from the GenX6, not daisy =
chained. </FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Try this:</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 =
if that's=20
what you use for tracking/mixing).</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. Turn on any other devices =
that are=20
interfacing with the WC (including MECs-obviously you can't do this =
with a=20
442 since it gets it's power from the computer-which, as stated=20
above, may be the problem)</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Boot PC</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. Launch =
Windows</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program Files=20
and launch Paris.exe from that folder</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>5. Set project to 48KHz=20
(<STRONG><U>very</U></STRONG> important that the default project.ppj =
be set=20
to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the =
name "default=20
project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the program files =
folder and=20
save it again under the same name to your desktop.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>6. Close =
Paris</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7. Reboot =
computer</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got that MEC here if you want to give it a =
try. The=20
reason I was using a 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 =
never did=20
work reliably for me.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I have =
a five=20
card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word clock =
generator</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that =
won't play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in that the WC =
cables</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>had to run in =
series from=20
the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a simpler</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000>configuration. David=20
gave me that advise since he owns the same mobo </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>and hardware as =
I. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>Symptoms:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It will =
play back=20
projects in parallel wc mode with all five cards =
active. =20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Bad =
news is it=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>won't =
allow=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>any =
inputs except=20
the first </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>16 on MEC=20
A. All the others never show up in the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>meters =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>although their =
associated input=20
lights on the modules </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>light up. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>When wc is in=20
series I lose the EDS cards that </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>are in between A and E (B, C & D) so =
no audio=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>plays </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>off those cards </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>but all hardware inputs work and print ! =
Huh? This=20
is with or without</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>UseHouseSync=3D1 in the=20
Paris config, with/without termination </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic =
Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and I tried a multitude of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>combinations of Mecs=20
and 442s </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>connected=20
to different cards. Well, all but the 442 on Mec A =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>which =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>is unacceptable =
anyway. It=20
seems to like the 442 last in line with card E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I'm at =
a loss for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions? I'm thinking =
another=20
Mec instead </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>of the =
442 is all I=20
can do. I plan to have four Mecs in total if I can =
get three=20
going successfully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>I know Dimitrios =
was all=20
over this months ago. He suggested Mecs instead of=20
442s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Anyone =
else?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000>TIA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"=20
color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
spam, and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
..html</A> </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCK=
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| Re: Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86610 is a reply to message #86601] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 10:09 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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David,
I guess this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and =
rename
the Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I can =
retain the
24bit outs for monitoring. That would solve alot if not all of the =
problems.
Thanks,
Tom
PS 2 lines from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1 =20
RIGHT?
I use WordPad to add and save.
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
news:467156c5$1@linux...
Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards. =
You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run=20
seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme =
of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can=20
re-arrange them in software.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal=20
> length WC cables.
> I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more just =
to=20
> see if anything
> helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000 =
things=20
> in front of that
> that I have to do.
> =20
> Thanks tons,
> Tom
> =20
>=20
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the =
442
> in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably =
because
> Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it =
boots,
> at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is not =
able
> to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is during
> bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other =
devices.
> Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock =
feed
> from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
> =20
> Try this:
> =20
> 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> tracking/mixing).
> 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC
> (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it =
gets
> it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be the =
problem)
> 3. Boot PC
> 4. Launch Windows
> 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe
> from that folder
> 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default =
project.ppj
> be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the
> name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in =
the
> program files folder and save it again under the same name to =
your
> desktop.
> 6. Close Paris
> 7. Reboot computer
> =20
> Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've still =
got
> that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was =
using a
> 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work =
reliably
> for me.
> =20
> Deej
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net =
<mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word =
clock
> generator
> that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the =
WC
> cables
> had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a =
simpler
> configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the =
same
> mobo
> and hardware as I.=20
> =20
> Symptoms:
> It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five
> cards active. Bad news is it
> won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All =
the
> others never show up in the
> meters although their associated input lights on the modules
> light up.=20
> =20
> When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in =
between A
> and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and print =
!=20
> Huh? This is with or without
> UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without =
termination and
> I tried a multitude of
> combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.=20
> Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last =
in
> line with card E.
> =20
> I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions? =
> I'm thinking another Mec instead
> of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in =
total
> if I can get three going successfully.
> =20
> I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He =
suggested
> Mecs instead of 442s.
> Anyone else?
> =20
> TIA,
> Tom
> =20
> =20
>=20
>=20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess this a really dumb question but =
can I do=20
what you said and rename</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Master as card D? I've never =
ever tried=20
that. . . If so, I can retain the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>24bit outs for monitoring. That =
would solve=20
alot if not all of the problems.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2> PS &nbs p; 2 lines=20
from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1 =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; &nbs p;=20
RIGHT?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I use WordPad to add and =
save.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:467156c5$1@linux">news:467156c5$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Try =
putting the=20
442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards. =
<BR> You=20
will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run <BR>seperate =
equal=20
length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme <BR>of things =
it=20
doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can <BR>re-arrange =
them in=20
software.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> Thanks =
guys. I=20
will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal <BR>> =
length WC=20
cables.<BR>> I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot =
a little=20
more just to <BR>> see if anything<BR>> helps my =
situation. Maybe=20
even today if I can finish the 1,000 things <BR>> in front of =
that<BR>>=20
that I have to do.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks tons,<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "DJ" =
<<A=20
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A=
>>><BR>> =20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46713b25@linux">news:46713b25@linux</A>...<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing the=20
442<BR>> in favor of another MEC solved the =
problem........prbably because<BR>> Paris =
likes to=20
see a clock signal on all interfaces when it=20
boots,<BR>> at least with mine, this seemed =
to be=20
the case. The 442 is not able<BR>> to see a =
clock=20
signal until after it initializes which is=20
during<BR>> bootup so it's not siyncing at =
the same=20
time as the other devices.<BR>> Also, =
with my=20
system, each MEC was being sent a separate clock=20
feed<BR>> from the GenX6, not daisy=20
chained.<BR> > =2 0
<BR>> Try=20
this:<BR>> =
<BR>> =20
1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use=20
for<BR>> =20
tracking/mixing).<BR>> 2. Turn on any other =
devices=20
that are interfacing with the WC<BR>> =
(including=20
MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since it=20
gets<BR>> it's power from the =
computer-which, as=20
stated above, may be the problem)<BR>> 3. =
Boot=20
PC<BR>> 4. Launch=20
Windows<BR>> 3. Go to Paris folder in your =
Program=20
Files and launch Paris.exe<BR>> from that=20
folder<BR>> 5. Set project to 48KHz (very =
important=20
that the default project.ppj<BR>> be set to =
48KHz),=20
sync source external, save project under =
the<BR>> =20
name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in=20
the<BR>> program files folder and save it =
again=20
under the same name to your<BR>> =20
desktop.<BR>> 6. Close=20
Paris<BR>> 7. Reboot=20
computer<BR> > =2 0
<BR>> Launch Paris from the desktop =
"default=20
project.ppj". I've still got<BR>> that MEC =
here if=20
you want to give it a try. The reason I was using=20
a<BR>> 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and =
a 442=20
never did work reliably<BR>> for=20
me.<BR>> =
<BR>> =20
Deej<BR> > =2 0
<BR>> =
<BR> > =2 0
<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word=20
clock<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
generator<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; that =
won't=20
play nice. It was odd to begin with in that the=20
WC<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
cables<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; had to =
run in=20
series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E in a=20
simpler<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns the=20
same<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
mobo<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; and =
hardware as=20
I. <BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
Symptoms:<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; It =
will play=20
back projects in parallel wc mode with all=20
five<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; cards=20
active. Bad news is=20
it<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; won't allow =
any=20
inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All=20
the<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; others =
never show=20
up in the<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =
meters=20
although their associated input lights on the=20
modules<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; light =
up.=20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; When wc is in =
series=20
I lose the EDS cards that are in between=20
A<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; and E (B, C =
& D)=20
so no audio<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =
plays off=20
those cards but all hardware inputs work and print !=20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; Huh? =
This is=20
with or =
without<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without termination=20
and<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; I tried a=20
multitude of<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.=20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; Well, all but =
the 442=20
on Mec A<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; which =
is=20
unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442 last=20
in<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; line with =
card=20
E.<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; I'm at a loss =
for a=20
solution at this time. Any suggestions?=20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; I'm thinking =
another=20
Mec instead<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; of =
the 442=20
is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in=20
total<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; if I can =
get=20
three going=20
=
successfully.<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &nbs=
p;=20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; I know =
Dimitrios was=20
all over this months ago. He=20
suggested<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; Mecs =
instead=20
of 442s.<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =
Anyone=20
else?<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
TIA,<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
Tom<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> <BR> > &a mp;nbsp; I =
choose=20
Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; <A=20
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| Re: Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86622 is a reply to message #86610] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 13:50 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Yes, in the Master/Submix fader window, you can assign which subgroups
get assigned to the cards. Simply assign submix 1 to the EDS card
that has the MEC hanging off it that you want to use for your main
outs and you're done.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> I guess this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and rename
> the Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I can
> retain the
> 24bit outs for monitoring. That would solve alot if not all of the
> problems.
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
> PS 2 lines from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=1
>
> RIGHT?
>
> I use WordPad to add and save.
>
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:467156c5$1@linux...
> Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two cards.
> You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run
> seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand scheme
> of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you can
> re-arrange them in software.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have equal
> > length WC cables.
> > I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little more
> just to
> > see if anything
> > helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the 1,000
> things
> > in front of that
> > that I have to do.
> >
> > Thanks tons,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> > wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> > I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. Losing
> the 442
> > in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably because
> > Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when it
> boots,
> > at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 is
> not able
> > to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is during
> > bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other
> devices.
> > Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate
> clock feed
> > from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> > tracking/mixing).
> > 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with the WC
> > (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 since
> it gets
> > it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may be
> the problem)
> > 3. Boot PC
> > 4. Launch Windows
> > 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch Paris.exe
> > from that folder
> > 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default
> project.ppj
> > be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under the
> > name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in the
> > program files folder and save it again under the same name to
> your
> > desktop.
> > 6. Close Paris
> > 7. Reboot computer
> >
> > Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've
> still got
> > that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I was
> using a
> > 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work
> reliably
> > for me.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> > wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> > I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word
> clock
> > generator
> > that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in that
> the WC
> > cables
> > had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E
> in a simpler
> > configuration. David gave me that advise since he owns
> the same
> > mobo
> > and hardware as I.
> >
> > Symptoms:
> > It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with all five
> > cards active. Bad news is it
> > won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. All the
> > others never show up in the
> > meters although their associated input lights on the modules
> > light up.
> >
> > When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in
> between A
> > and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> > plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work and
> print !
> > Huh? This is with or without
> > UseHouseSync=1 in the Paris config, with/without
> termination and
> > I tried a multitude of
> > combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different cards.
> > Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> > which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the 442
> last in
> > line with card E.
> >
> > I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any suggestions?
> > I'm thinking another Mec instead
> > of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs in
> total
> > if I can get three going successfully.
> >
> > I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He suggested
> > Mecs instead of 442s.
> > Anyone else?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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| Re: Paris, multi mec and WC gurus I call upon you ! David? [message #86628 is a reply to message #86622] |
Thu, 14 June 2007 16:20 |
Tom Bruhl
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David,
I always used two identical Mecs so never had a need to swap
one for the Master. Nice to know.
Thanks again,
Tom
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4671ab87@linux...
Yes, in the Master/Submix fader window, you can assign which subgroups =
get assigned to the cards. Simply assign submix 1 to the EDS card=20
that has the MEC hanging off it that you want to use for your main=20
outs and you're done.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> I guess this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and =
rename
> the Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I can =
> retain the
> 24bit outs for monitoring. That would solve alot if not all of the=20
> problems.
> Thanks,
> Tom
> =20
> PS 2 lines from last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1=20
> =20
> RIGHT?
> =20
> I use WordPad to add and save.
> =20
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:467156c5$1@linux...
> Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two =
cards.
> You will need the house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and run
> seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand =
scheme
> of things it doesn't matter where the interfaces plug in, as you =
can
> re-arrange them in software.
>=20
> David.
>=20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Thanks guys. I will give your suggestions a try. I do have =
equal
> > length WC cables.
> > I will need that MEC Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little =
more
> just to
> > see if anything
> > helps my situation. Maybe even today if I can finish the =
1,000
> things
> > in front of that
> > that I have to do.
> >=20
> > Thanks tons,
> > Tom
> >=20
> >
> > "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> =
<http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
> > wrote in message news:46713b25@linux...
> > I had the same problem running three MECs and a 442. =
Losing
> the 442
> > in favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably =
because
> > Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when =
it
> boots,
> > at least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442 =
is
> not able
> > to see a clock signal until after it initializes which is =
during
> > bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the other
> devices.
> > Also, with my system, each MEC was being sent a separate
> clock feed
> > from the GenX6, not daisy chained.
> > =20
> > Try this:
> > =20
> > 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's what you use for
> > tracking/mixing).
> > 2. Turn on any other devices that are interfacing with =
the WC
> > (including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442 =
since
> it gets
> > it's power from the computer-which, as stated above, may =
be
> the problem)
> > 3. Boot PC
> > 4. Launch Windows
> > 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program Files and launch =
Paris.exe
> > from that folder
> > 5. Set project to 48KHz (very important that the default
> project.ppj
> > be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project =
under the
> > name "default project" (no quotes) to your Paris =
directory in the
> > program files folder and save it again under the same =
name to
> your
> > desktop.
> > 6. Close Paris
> > 7. Reboot computer
> > =20
> > Launch Paris from the desktop "default project.ppj". I've
> still got
> > that MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I =
was
> using a
> > 4 MEC system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did work
> reliably
> > for me.
> > =20
> > Deej
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net
> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net> <mailto:arpegio@comcast.net>>
> > wrote in message news:4670de3c$1@linux...
> > I have a five card, XP, 2 x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid =
Word
> clock
> > generator
> > that won't play nice. It was odd to begin with in =
that
> the WC
> > cables
> > had to run in series from the Lucid to Mec A then Mec =
E
> in a simpler
> > configuration. David gave me that advise since he =
owns
> the same
> > mobo
> > and hardware as I.
> > =20
> > Symptoms:
> > It will play back projects in parallel wc mode with =
all five
> > cards active. Bad news is it
> > won't allow any inputs except the first 16 on MEC A. =
All the
> > others never show up in the
> > meters although their associated input lights on the =
modules
> > light up.
> > =20
> > When wc is in series I lose the EDS cards that are in
> between A
> > and E (B, C & D) so no audio
> > plays off those cards but all hardware inputs work =
and
> print !
> > Huh? This is with or without
> > UseHouseSync=3D1 in the Paris config, with/without
> termination and
> > I tried a multitude of
> > combinations of Mecs and 442s connected to different =
cards.
> > Well, all but the 442 on Mec A
> > which is unacceptable anyway. It seems to like the =
442
> last in
> > line with card E.
> > =20
> > I'm at a loss for a solution at this time. Any =
suggestions?
> > I'm thinking another Mec instead
> > of the 442 is all I can do. I plan to have four Mecs =
in
> total
> > if I can get three going successfully.
> > =20
> > I know Dimitrios was all over this months ago. He =
suggested
> > Mecs instead of 442s.
> > Anyone else?
> > =20
> > TIA,
> > Tom
> > =20
> > =20
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I always used two identical Mecs so =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"EK Sound" <<A =
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wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:4671ab87@linux">news:4671ab87@linux</A>...</DIV>Yes, in =
the=20
Master/Submix fader window, you can assign which subgroups <BR>get =
assigned to=20
the cards. Simply assign submix 1 to the EDS card <BR>that has =
the MEC=20
hanging off it that you want to use for your main <BR>outs and you're=20
done.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> David,<BR>> I =
guess=20
this a really dumb question but can I do what you said and =
rename<BR>> the=20
Master as card D? I've never ever tried that. . . If so, I =
can=20
<BR>> retain the<BR>> 24bit outs for monitoring. That =
would solve=20
alot if not all of the <BR>> problems.<BR>> Thanks,<BR>>=20
Tom<BR>> <BR>> PS &nbs p; 2 =
lines from=20
last entry in Paris.cfg UseHouseSync=3D1 =
<BR>> =20
=
<BR> > &a mp;nbsp;  =
;   ; =20
RIGHT?<BR>> <BR>> I use WordPad to add and =
save.<BR>> =20
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> "EK=20
Sound" <<A href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A> =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>>> =
wrote=20
in<BR>> message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:467156c5$1@linux">news:467156c5$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
Try putting the 442 on the A card and the MEC's on the last two=20
cards.<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; You will need =
the=20
house sync line for 3 + interfaces, and =
run<BR>> =20
seperate equal length WC cables to each interface. In the grand=20
scheme<BR>> of things it doesn't matter =
where the=20
interfaces plug in, as you can<BR>> =
re-arrange them=20
in software.<BR>> <BR>> David.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> > Thanks guys. I =
will=20
give your suggestions a try. I do have=20
equal<BR>> > length WC=20
cables.<BR>> > I will need that =
MEC=20
Deej. Let me trouble shoot a little =
more<BR>> =20
just to<BR>> > see if=20
anything<BR>> > helps my =
situation. =20
Maybe even today if I can finish the =
1,000<BR>> =20
things<BR>> > in front of=20
that<BR>> > that I have to=20
do.<BR>> >=20
<BR>> > Thanks=20
tons,<BR>> >=20
Tom<BR>> >=20
<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> =
> "DJ"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A><BR>&g=
t; =20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A=
>>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A=
>>><BR> > =2 0
> wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:46713b25@linux">news:46713b25@linux</A>...<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
> I had the same problem running three MECs =
and a=20
442. Losing<BR>> the=20
442<BR>> > =
in=20
favor of another MEC solved the problem........prbably=20
because<BR>> =
> =20
Paris likes to see a clock signal on all interfaces when=20
it<BR>> =20
boots,<BR>> =
> at=20
least with mine, this seemed to be the case. The 442=20
is<BR>> not=20
able<BR>> =
> to see=20
a clock signal until after it initializes which is=20
during<BR>> =
> =20
bootup so it's not siyncing at the same time as the=20
other<BR>> =20
devices.<BR> > =2 0
> Also, with my system, each MEC was =
being=20
sent a separate<BR>> clock=20
feed<BR>> =
> from=20
the GenX6, not daisy chained.<BR> > =2 0
> <BR> > =2 0
> Try =
this:<BR> > =2 0
> <BR> > =2 0
> 1. Turn on WC (set it to 44.1 if that's =
what you=20
use for<BR>> =
> =20
tracking/mixing).<BR> > =2 0
> 2. Turn on any other devices that are =
interfacing=20
with the WC<BR>> =
> =20
(including MECs-obviously you can't do this with a 442=20
since<BR>> it=20
gets<BR>> =
> it's=20
power from the computer-which, as stated above, may=20
be<BR>> the=20
problem)<BR>> =
> 3.=20
Boot PC<BR>> =
> 4.=20
Launch Windows<BR> > =2 0
> 3. Go to Paris folder in your Program =
Files and=20
launch Paris.exe<BR> > =2 0
> from that=20
folder<BR>> =
> 5.=20
Set project to 48KHz (very important that the=20
default<BR>> =20
project.ppj<BR>> =
> =20
be set to 48KHz), sync source external, save project under=20
the<BR>> > =
name=20
"default project" (no quotes) to your Paris directory in=20
the<BR>> > =
program=20
files folder and save it again under the same name=20
to<BR>> =
your<BR> > =2 0
> =
desktop.<BR> > =2 0
> 6. Close=20
Paris<BR>> =
> 7.=20
Reboot computer<BR> > =2 0
> <BR> > =2 0
> Launch Paris from the desktop "default=20
project.ppj". I've<BR>> still=20
got<BR>> > =
that=20
MEC here if you want to give it a try. The reason I=20
was<BR>> using=20
a<BR>> > 4 =
MEC=20
system is because 3 x MECS and a 442 never did=20
work<BR>> =20
reliably<BR>> =
> =20
for me.<BR>> =
> =20
<BR>> > =20
Deej<BR>> =
> =20
<BR>> > =20
<BR>> > =20
<BR>> > =20
<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">mailto:arpegio@comcast.net</A>>>=
;<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; wrote in message =
<A=20
=
href=3D"news:4670de3c$1@linux">news:4670de3c$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
> &a mp;nbsp; I have a five =
card, XP, 2=20
x MEC, 1 x 442 and a Lucid Word<BR>> =20
clock<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
generator<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; that won't play=20
nice. It was odd to begin with in =
that<BR>> =20
the WC<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
cables<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; had to run in =
series from=20
the Lucid to Mec A then Mec E<BR>> in a=20
simpler<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =
configuration. =20
David gave me that advise since he =
owns<BR>> the=20
same<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
mobo<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; and hardware as=20
I.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
Symptoms:<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; It will play back =
projects in parallel wc mode with all=20
five<BR> > =2 0
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active. Bad=20
news is it<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; won't allow any =
inputs=20
except the first 16 on MEC A. All=20
the<BR> > =2 0
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the<BR> > =2 0
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<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; When wc is in =
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lose the EDS cards that are in<BR>> between =
A<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; and E (B, C & =
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no audio<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; plays off those =
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all hardware inputs work and<BR>> print=20
!<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Huh? This =
is with=20
or without<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; UseHouseSync=3D1 =
in the=20
Paris config, with/without<BR>> termination =
and<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I tried a =
multitude=20
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> &a mp;nbsp; combinations of =
Mecs and=20
442s connected to different =
cards.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Well, all but the =
442 on=20
Mec A<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; which is =
unacceptable=20
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last=20
in<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; line with card=20
E.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I'm at a loss for =
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solution at this time. Any=20
suggestions?<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I'm thinking =
another Mec=20
instead<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; of the 442 is all =
I can=20
do. I plan to have four Mecs in<BR>> =20
total<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; if I can get =
three going=20
successfully.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; I know Dimitrios =
was all=20
over this months ago. He=20
suggested<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Mecs instead of=20
442s.<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; Anyone=20
else?<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
TIA,<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
Tom<BR> > =2 0
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<BR> > =2 0
> &a mp;nbsp; =20
<BR> > =2 0
><BR> > =2 0
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> &a mp;nbsp; I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =
> &a mp;nbsp; <A=20
=
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