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Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106084]

Sun, 13 March 2011 09:21

Doug Wellington is currently offline

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Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project?[ 14 vote(s) ]
1.	Yes, I want a motorized C-16 for use with only PARIS.	3 / 21%
2.	Yes, I want a motorized c-16 for use with all my software including PARIS.	11 / 79%
3.	No, I don't want a motorized fader control.	0 / 0%

When the PARIS newsgroup disappeared, I thought the PARIS community had finally given up, so I dropped my plans for anything more than one-off projects for myself.

Are there enough of us still around to make it worth while to resurrect these projects?

[Updated on: Sun, 13 March 2011 09:23]

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106085 is a reply to message #106084 ]

Sun, 13 March 2011 10:11

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Voted 2....to work with Reaper would be great!

1 would be nice too and I know the C16 faders would definitely get more use Wink

Wink

Also might want to move this to the main forum as I know it gets most of the visits it seems.

Matt
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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106089 is a reply to message #106084 ]

Sun, 13 March 2011 13:11

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Yes, if possible esp to run with other software, esp if MA gets ASIO working

So I guess that's two qualifications...

Ted

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106092 is a reply to message #106085 ]

Sun, 13 March 2011 13:46

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Dumb Q

What would this retrofit project cost, ballpark?

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106101 is a reply to message #106092 ]

Sun, 13 March 2011 18:36

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Hard to say how much it will cost. Depends greatly on how many I make. If it's just a couple, we're probably talking $500+ each. The faders I'm using (same as the ones in the Euphonix Artist Series) are $12 each, so that's a couple hundred bucks right there...

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106117 is a reply to message #106101 ]

Tue, 15 March 2011 05:38

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Wow, that's a lot less than I thought. I'd probably jump right in even if they only worked for Paris.

Assuming it will behave in hardware just as the automation in software does, with flipping between the submixes recalling automation for those mixes etc etc

Yeah, I'm in.

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106124 is a reply to message #106117 ]

Tue, 15 March 2011 14:32

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If you could get it to interface with Reaper I'd definitely be interested...hell I'd buy a couple more C16s just for that...oops this might start a run on C16s....never mind

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106126 is a reply to message #106124 ]

Tue, 15 March 2011 14:42

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No C16 required. This is a complete replacement...

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106131 is a reply to message #106126 ]

Tue, 15 March 2011 15:22

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Hey Doug - have you considered breaking this into two discrete projects - one a "motorized C16" and the other a smaller "line lump" that would sit between any C16 and the EDS card and have a MIDI out jack on it?

That second box would leave people with a C16 that was platform and driver independent. Most of the development would be stuff you'd be doing for the motorized fader box anyway; the comparative hardware costs for the line-lump would be peanuts, and the market comparatively larger (folks that might hesistate at buying a $500 motorized fader controller would buy a $75 "turn your C16 into a MIDI controller" box without a second thought).

I can't wait until you and Mike get talking. He's bootstrapped himself into being a formidable coder and he's an absolutely great guy. He's put some time into scrutinizing the C16's quasi-midi "language" since his plan is to have it show up to the OS as a MIDI controller once the Win7 64bit drivers are licked.

Inspiring stuff!

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106136 is a reply to message #106131 ]

Tue, 15 March 2011 20:42

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kerryg wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 15:22

have you considered breaking this into two discrete projects - one a "motorized C16" and the other a smaller "line lump" that would sit between any C16 and the EDS card and have a MIDI out jack on it?

I thought that one other guy already did the MIDI out thing?

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the comparative hardware costs for the line-lump would be peanuts, and the market comparatively larger (folks that might hesistate at buying a $500 motorized fader controller would buy a $75 "turn your C16 into a MIDI controller" box without a second thought).

Sure, I think you're right on that. I suppose I should consider resurrecting the wireless module project too...

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I can't wait until you and Mike get talking. He's bootstrapped himself into being a formidable coder and he's an absolutely great guy. He's put some time into scrutinizing the C16's quasi-midi "language" since his plan is to have it show up to the OS as a MIDI controller once the Win7 64bit drivers are licked.

Sounds good. I had communicated with him a long time ago, but we lost touch without doing anything...

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106137 is a reply to message #106136 ]

Wed, 16 March 2011 05:39

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I like the 'green' aspects of converting the C-16 into a generic midi interface (preferably one that speaks the MCU protocol). Re-use and Re-cycle!

I've got 3 of these things......

Cheers

Kris

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106409 is a reply to message #106126 ]

Sun, 15 May 2011 14:55

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Doug Wellington wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 14:42

No C16 required. This is a complete replacement...

Ok, I'm intrigued. Would this thing be only faders? Or transport controls and such as well? How would it behave across submixes?

Jimmy

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106412 is a reply to message #106409 ]

Sun, 15 May 2011 18:43

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Pretty much a clone of the C-16 with all buttons, knobs and faders. (No up and down leds though.)

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106413 is a reply to message #106412 ]

Sun, 15 May 2011 18:49

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I'd find the money.

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Re: Should I resurrect the motorized fader C-16 replacement project? [message #106517 is a reply to message #106084 ]

Mon, 13 June 2011 23:54

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Count me in for the line-lump.

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